Let's Start a Law Firm, Episode 1: The Touchy–Feely

In this inaugural episode of Annie and Ben's short-run podcast, "Let's Start a Law Firm", they discuss the reasons why an attorney (or attorneys) might want to start their own law firm. SPOILER: For Annie, it's all about the Benjamins and for Benjamin, well, he got fired. They also talk about the timing of starting your own firm, as well as meta-issues of why they want to do a podcast about starting a law firm, who they're doing it for, and what books and podcasts have been useful-slash-inspiring to them along the way. 

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Show notes for Let's Start a Law Firm, Episode 1: The Touchy–Feely

The "student loan forgiveness program" for public service lawyers that ultimately pushed Annie into private practice.  

Ben's rant about generational warfare called "Eat the Young" and the student loan crisis. Plus, a mind-bendingly awful chart about the student load debt Americans carry today. 

The law school commencement address Ben will never be invited to give in which he explores how deeply unhelpful law school is to its students and their future clients.   

Helpful-slash-inspirational books and podcasts 


Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience by Mihaly Csikszentmihaly

So Good They Can't Ignore You: Why Skills Trump Passion in the Quest for Work You Love by Cal Newport

Linchpin: Are You Indispensable? by Seth Godin

Win Your Case: How to Present, Persuade, and Prevail—Every Place, Every Time by Gerry Spence 

Rework by the people at 37 Signals 

Solo By Choice: How to Be the Lawyer You Always Wanted to Be by Carolyn Elefant

How to Start and Build a Law Firm by Jay Foonberg

Getting Things Done: The Art of Stress-Free Productivity by David Allen


If you are new to listening to podcasts, two thing: First, WELCOME! Second, you may want to consider getting a dedicated app on your iPhone or other mobile device to listen to podcasts. This class of apps is called "podcatchers" and you can buy them in the App Store. Ben uses Downcast. Instacast is very popular with the nerds, as well. Annie uses Stitcher and Ben is not judging her for that.

Here are two podcasts that have been helpful to Ben. Not with the specific work of practicing law, but with the meta-work of figuring out what kind of work he wants to do and under what conditions he will do that work.  

Quit! with Dan Benjamin

Back to Work with Merlin Mann and Dan Benjamin

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Show credits

Many thanks to Cast Iron Filter for letting us use "Tamarack" from their live album, "Live from the Highway", as our bumper music. CIF's music is available on iTunes and it is simply the best. If your travels take you down a two-lane highway, do not leave home without CIF.  

Photo credit for the "start button" image in our cover art goes to Mijn. Thanks for taking a cool picture and sharing it on Flickr.

Thanks to Daniel Jalkut and John Gruber for this episode of The Talk Show. It gave Ben the permission he needed to do a short-run podcast.

And, many thanks to Michael Powell, who helped Ben set up his audio equipment and learn a little more about Garage Band. Michael is a mensch who is great at Twitter. If there's a problem with the audio, it's Ben's fault. 


Annie has a website and accounts on Facebook and Twitter

So does Ben: website, Facebook, Twitter.